Are Women Allowed To Teach Men?
June 3, 2008
“Men are taught to apologize for their weaknesses, women for their strengths.” ~Lois Wyse
We left off at the three interpretations of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. If those verses are taken literally and universally at face value, it sets a “biblical” mandate silenceing women altogether in public gatherings of the body. For those just tuning in, you can read three alternate interpretations here: Silent Women Part 1, Silent Women Part 2, Silent Women Part 3.
When we consider the larger context of the Bible and internal problems of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, we can conclude a woman’s utter silence in church gatherings is not what the scriptures are mandating. Now, we move onto the amount of authority a woman can exercise within the body. We know she can speak, but can she teach? Can she preach? Can she pastor? Can she lead prayer, songs, and ministries?
The “big guns” for the complementarian position on this matter is 1 Timothy 2:9-15, which taken at face value would bar women from not only teaching, but holding any position of “authority” over men. Division exists within complementarian-camps about just how far to apply this verse. Does this verse bar women from not only teaching the scripture to men, but from holding ANY teaching position in which they would instruct men? Should christian women be forbidden from becoming college professors at co-ed universities? Or public speakers? Should they be judges, senators, governors, or hold other political offices? Should christian women hire male employees if they run their own businesses? Extreme complementarians would assert that christian men should NEVER put themselves under a woman’s authority in any setting: church, home, business, school, and so forth and that christian women should never aspire to obtain any position in the church, home, and business, political, and educational realms that would make them the “boss,” “expert,” “teacher,” “instructor,” or “leader” over men.
On the other hand, more moderate-complementarians claim this verse only applies to church and home. So, a woman may teach a man math or history in a college class, but cannot teach on scripture in a co-ed adult bible class. She may “share” a testimony or encouraging word, but cannot teach, pontificate, or expound upon the Bible. A woman may have authority over her male students or employees, but never in the church. In the church, she may never hold any position other than backup singer, nursery worker, or jobs ministries made up solely of women and children.
As much as I appreciate moderate-complementarians’ attempts to make 1 Timothy 2:9-15 a little less restrictive, there are no such convenient qualifiers found in the text itself. So to arrive at the moderate-complementarian conclusion, other interpretative tools must be explored, such as cultural and historical factors, who Paul is writing these words to and why (context), the original language, and so forth. When they do this, they arrive at their moderate-understanding and when egalitarians do this, we arrive at our equality-understanding. We can debate which interpretation is the stronger, more logical, and more probable, but neither side adheres to a completely face-value-type interpretation. So, I make this friendly reminder to discourage the inevitable comments from the “just take the bible for what is plainly says” crowd.
The next couple of posts will examine this perplexing verse by consulting the original language and the enlightening historical and cultural factors at play which are congruent with the larger context of 1 Timothy.
Is this verse a command/corrective measure to a specific church body encountering a specific problem or a universal command to keep women in an eternally subordinate position in all aspects of life?
June 3, 2008 at 10:36 am
Beautiaful,
This is a very helpful series. And your questions in this particular post just don’t stop. So I keep wondering: What if a woman had been allowed to write one of Paul’s letters? Would she have been as instructive as you are here? And would she have addressed men in church and home so differently from women? Why didn’t Paul say the things to the women in Rome (in “Romans”) that he said to the women in Greece? What if a woman wrote to the Hebrew women and men (in “Hebrews”)?
Thanks again for getting us asking. Propositions are just so 1950s.
June 3, 2008 at 10:40 am
I personally believe beside the fact this passage is written in the SINGULAR form in Greek and written about ONE woman, that 2 John 1 and Romans 16, negates this whole thought of women have not being allowed to teach men.
I reject the ‘authority’ argument because there are NO authorities in the church except Jesus Christ. All the rest of it such as elders, pastors, etc., are simply functions. And the only authority they have is in the Truth they are teaching and that is the Holy Spirit.
I believe that once we get the ‘authority’ question right, the rest will follow. Too many people out there are ignoring all the ‘don’t lord it over’ passages and forgetting that they are simple servants to the Body.
BTW: Scripture does say we are under civil authorites and this was written during NERO!!
June 3, 2008 at 12:55 pm
Excellent thoughts Lin and J.K. : I could not agree more about the authority issue. Part of the problem is how the role of “pastor” and “teacher” have morphed. People depend TOO heavily on them and give them too much power over church life and individual lives. It’s not good for pastors or the people “under” them. It’s power that NO ONE is meant to have except Christ.
June 7, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I am living in the parish where this is what’s preached http://www.stalkmunds.stixworx.com/mp3/roleofwomen.mp3. It’s killing me because I feel so called into ordained ministry. Could you recommend someone who would be willing to post this up on their site so that it can be commented upon and critiqued. I want to understand further the other ways in which this passage can be read. After all it has to have been interpreted differently for the Church of England to have decided to ordain women in 1994. For example, I do not understand how the vicar can say that biblical submission is to put yourself under someone’s authority – I thought it had more to do with putting their needs ahead of your own. The vicar talks of Christ and the beauty of his submission but surely that was in sacrificing himself for us – atoning for us, dying for us – there’s the beauty!
If you want to post it on your site so that people can respond to it that would be great or if you could recommend someone else who would be able to offer an alternative reading that would be great.
Thanks so much.
June 11, 2008 at 2:00 pm
I’m enjoying your site.
God bless all your hard work!
June 11, 2008 at 2:02 pm
You can see what I’m up to at http://hrht-revisingreform.blogspot.com
I’m trying to get people to understand the Conservative evangelical Reform agenda and how destructive it could be. You could introduce yourselves to your British sisters in Christ on my site.
God Bless